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		By: Catherine Shirley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine Shirley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Rod Kirkpatrick (above) that Journalists need to file to survive and also agree that historians usually take a longer period of time to publish their works.  
However, as a former TV Producer of documentaries, including ones with a History focus, I support the efforts of those in the media to popularise history and to give meaning to the present through stories of the past.

The difference with the stories being told about the current Gallipoli commemorations is that there is &quot;no new News&quot;, and perhaps this is therefore not as dynamic as audiences have come to expect.  
Journalists and ordinary citizens have therefore done, what Historian Jonathan King described on Channel 10 tonight as taking ownership for family history, with the citizen becoming the academic and forensically examining every record that exists about their own family hero/es.  This includes journalists who had family who fought at Gallipoli.  
The interesting point is, therefore, the balance between the ownership of history and who tells it.  As Dr King said previously in an interview on ABC Radio about his book &quot;Gallipoli Diaries&quot;, http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/historian-warns-of-a-century-of-misunderstanding/5796030, the Anzac Troops on the ground did not trust the propagandists who were reporting on the campaign via the Press, and reported the truth of the bloody campaign in their diaries for their families to read and hold as testamentary evidence for all time that the Press can and does get it wrong.
Where do Historians sit amongst all of this?  Patiently, I&#039;d say.  This is a fleeting moment in time, this Centenary celebration.  Thank heavens for the journalists who report it, and for the families who have preserved the precious records through several generations and for the Historians who will come to interpret it all for us, turning the light on this moment in time a little further down the track.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rod Kirkpatrick (above) that Journalists need to file to survive and also agree that historians usually take a longer period of time to publish their works.<br />
However, as a former TV Producer of documentaries, including ones with a History focus, I support the efforts of those in the media to popularise history and to give meaning to the present through stories of the past.</p>
<p>The difference with the stories being told about the current Gallipoli commemorations is that there is &#8220;no new News&#8221;, and perhaps this is therefore not as dynamic as audiences have come to expect.<br />
Journalists and ordinary citizens have therefore done, what Historian Jonathan King described on Channel 10 tonight as taking ownership for family history, with the citizen becoming the academic and forensically examining every record that exists about their own family hero/es.  This includes journalists who had family who fought at Gallipoli.<br />
The interesting point is, therefore, the balance between the ownership of history and who tells it.  As Dr King said previously in an interview on ABC Radio about his book &#8220;Gallipoli Diaries&#8221;, <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/historian-warns-of-a-century-of-misunderstanding/5796030" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/historian-warns-of-a-century-of-misunderstanding/5796030</a>, the Anzac Troops on the ground did not trust the propagandists who were reporting on the campaign via the Press, and reported the truth of the bloody campaign in their diaries for their families to read and hold as testamentary evidence for all time that the Press can and does get it wrong.<br />
Where do Historians sit amongst all of this?  Patiently, I&#8217;d say.  This is a fleeting moment in time, this Centenary celebration.  Thank heavens for the journalists who report it, and for the families who have preserved the precious records through several generations and for the Historians who will come to interpret it all for us, turning the light on this moment in time a little further down the track.</p>
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		By: phanswblogeditor		</title>
		<link>https://www.phansw.org.au/thoughts-on-the-anzac-centenary/#comment-229803</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A thoughtful piece on Anzackery by journalist Peter Hartcher
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/has-australia-learned-nothing-from-the-gallipoli-military-disaster-20150424-1mso48.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thoughtful piece on Anzackery by journalist Peter Hartcher<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/comment/has-australia-learned-nothing-from-the-gallipoli-military-disaster-20150424-1mso48.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.smh.com.au/comment/has-australia-learned-nothing-from-the-gallipoli-military-disaster-20150424-1mso48.html</a></p>
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		By: Rod Kirkpatrick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod Kirkpatrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am both journalist and historian, but my emphasis has been on the historian role for the past 20 years. One reason for the situation Caroline Adams describes is (I believe) that journalists have to &quot;file&quot; to survive--they have to write stories to fill newspapers, websites and news programs; they have to produce documentaries for radio and TV; they are at the front line of this business of remembering the centenary, as it were. Journalists face the constant pressure of deadlines. Historians tend to be working on bigger projects where deadlines are less frequent and sometimes more elastic. I have just completed writing a 62,000-word ms about my wife&#039;s 25 ancestors who enlisted to serve in World War I (six died over there). It will soon be published as a hard-cover book, *Cobbers and Cousins: A Family at the Great War*. In the midst of the great flood of Anzac centenary newspaper stories and TV programs, I have not sought publicity for my writing. I am hoping that &quot;commemoration fatigue&quot; (largely inspired by the Gallipoli centenary, I suggest) will wane. I hope that when the small readership for my book comes to the stories I tell about our family&#039;s 25 soldiers they will be able to see how the Great War impacted on the lives of one extended family and one small towns such as Gloucester and Laurieton. I believe they will be able to see this much better because of the depth of my research and because I have visited the Western Front battlefields three times and slogged away at finding out about the lives of our family&#039;s soldiers who returned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am both journalist and historian, but my emphasis has been on the historian role for the past 20 years. One reason for the situation Caroline Adams describes is (I believe) that journalists have to &#8220;file&#8221; to survive&#8211;they have to write stories to fill newspapers, websites and news programs; they have to produce documentaries for radio and TV; they are at the front line of this business of remembering the centenary, as it were. Journalists face the constant pressure of deadlines. Historians tend to be working on bigger projects where deadlines are less frequent and sometimes more elastic. I have just completed writing a 62,000-word ms about my wife&#8217;s 25 ancestors who enlisted to serve in World War I (six died over there). It will soon be published as a hard-cover book, *Cobbers and Cousins: A Family at the Great War*. In the midst of the great flood of Anzac centenary newspaper stories and TV programs, I have not sought publicity for my writing. I am hoping that &#8220;commemoration fatigue&#8221; (largely inspired by the Gallipoli centenary, I suggest) will wane. I hope that when the small readership for my book comes to the stories I tell about our family&#8217;s 25 soldiers they will be able to see how the Great War impacted on the lives of one extended family and one small towns such as Gloucester and Laurieton. I believe they will be able to see this much better because of the depth of my research and because I have visited the Western Front battlefields three times and slogged away at finding out about the lives of our family&#8217;s soldiers who returned.</p>
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		By: Jolyon Sykes		</title>
		<link>https://www.phansw.org.au/thoughts-on-the-anzac-centenary/#comment-229789</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jolyon Sykes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2015 02:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ye, I think the historians largely have been left out this time around. Of the many programs I have watched (or just glimpsed and rejected), the only one I enjoyed and felt was a reasonable representation of the ANZAC story was the ABC&#039;s &quot;Lest WE Forget What?? Written and directed by Rachel Landers. Narrated by Kate Aubusson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ye, I think the historians largely have been left out this time around. Of the many programs I have watched (or just glimpsed and rejected), the only one I enjoyed and felt was a reasonable representation of the ANZAC story was the ABC&#8217;s &#8220;Lest WE Forget What?? Written and directed by Rachel Landers. Narrated by Kate Aubusson.</p>
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